tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post5001760690470655845..comments2023-11-05T04:18:38.802-08:00Comments on Phoenix Firestorm Blog: Why so quiet?Alexis Stapovichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05526255116743393398noreply@blogger.comBlogger132125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-66367016162437827702011-12-07T14:17:51.423-08:002011-12-07T14:17:51.423-08:00So waiting for the Phoenix Mesh, quite frankly I c...So waiting for the Phoenix Mesh, quite frankly I cannot see how any person could ever be comfortable with ANY viewer based on the Viewer 2 style... it's absolute garbage.. yeah i am sure Firestorm is leaps and bounds ahead of Viewer 2 but the over all layout is similiar and just as clunky.. Phoenix forever!AnubisObithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04396305288844707823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-16283807868154076022011-12-05T17:02:37.322-08:002011-12-05T17:02:37.322-08:00Friend Caoilte, I shall be very pleased if you get...Friend Caoilte, I shall be very pleased if you get happy there.Raymond Martinekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578713262258721094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-39258568794919847172011-12-05T16:29:32.142-08:002011-12-05T16:29:32.142-08:00I love phoenix. Never the less I had problems with...I love phoenix. Never the less I had problems with the last viewer it took out some of L's and now I'm afraid to upgrade to the lastest viewer. .A viewer that maybe hopefully could kill the lag on sl. I wished that the newer viewer wouldn't be "taking" any of my L's.I've tried firestorm before and it was so odd to have the radio and voulume button up on top the screen where as with phoenix I'm so use to having everything at the bottom.GoldDragon Sabretoothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03602067146389094376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-56375102810492037572011-12-05T16:15:35.020-08:002011-12-05T16:15:35.020-08:00Friend Raymond, your last post is nothing BUT assu...Friend Raymond, your last post is nothing BUT assumptions. And I am finished with it. Other grids seem to be able to make it all work without gouging their members, and they do it for FREE... Check out OpenSim and the HyperGrid. Charity? I think not.Caoiltehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00108986463072166184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-74622674339744816912011-12-02T13:37:20.317-08:002011-12-02T13:37:20.317-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Raymond Martinekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578713262258721094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-44687977375031037462011-12-01T05:59:36.881-08:002011-12-01T05:59:36.881-08:00Friend Caoilte, Linden Lab are running a _business...Friend Caoilte, Linden Lab are running a _business_, _not_ a _charity_. If I were in charge at Linden Lab, I’d be happy with 40,000 users who spend substantial sums of real money on Second Life and could very well do without those 100,000 who may not but only cost me a lot of dough in terms of infrastructure and power-consumption what with the servers themselves and cooling/air-conditioning (which isn’t cheap at all). In short: The assumption Linden Lab were harming their business by excluding users with old/weak hardware is just that. An assumption. And not necessarily a plausible one.Raymond Martinekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578713262258721094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-35310240889443372322011-11-30T17:25:10.792-08:002011-11-30T17:25:10.792-08:00Well friend Raymond, you will just have to forgive...Well friend Raymond, you will just have to forgive me for taking offense for all the others that you may have offended. I didn't necessarily think or believe you meant me. Nor was I really being ignorant, I was being facetious. But maybe that's beyond the understanding of some. <br /><br />I do however feel that name calling in any blog is counter productive, and shows a lack of maturity. <br /><br />Yes I will bash the ones that came up with the idea to shove mesh enabled viewers down our throats. MOST of us simply can't run them, without upgrading our graphics cards. And not all of us can afford such upgrades, as I said three times already.<br /><br />IT IS MORONIC to force people to upgrade their computers or leave SL.<br /><br />140,000 users down to 40,000 (according to the statistics).... traffic is down grid-wide, and I suspect its LL's heavy handed, "our way or the highway" approach that has caused most of it.<br /><br />"FIX THE CODE YOU ALREADY HAVE", I say.... and allow us to use whatever viewer works best for our systems. Other grids already have mesh... and it works without having to spend more money to upgrade, why can't LL do the same thing? I guess its like every other corporation, don't invest any money back into the thing, just suck all the money OUT of the thing. And force changes that saves THEM money, and force US to spend more.<br /><br />Seems like bad business sense.Caoiltehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00108986463072166184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-55627470752872408732011-11-30T17:15:22.455-08:002011-11-30T17:15:22.455-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Caoiltehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00108986463072166184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-83155630498937612012011-11-30T17:13:41.562-08:002011-11-30T17:13:41.562-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Caoiltehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00108986463072166184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-61704519125640922652011-11-28T15:37:55.880-08:002011-11-28T15:37:55.880-08:00Friend Caoilte, forgiving ignorance is something I...Friend Caoilte, forgiving ignorance is something I do not subscribe to. I thought this much were clear. Anyway, if you think the hat fits, fine by me. But I didn’t refer to you. You only came up with some trite Linden-bashing.Raymond Martinekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578713262258721094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-89565415585382436542011-11-28T15:35:40.284-08:002011-11-28T15:35:40.284-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Raymond Martinekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578713262258721094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-38030742792287576372011-11-28T12:44:01.763-08:002011-11-28T12:44:01.763-08:00If you have older graphics hardware, and have trou...If you have older graphics hardware, and have trouble with corrupted textures on your avatar, turn off VBO in the preferences->graphics->hardware tab.desdemona enfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770253946320850388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-57712533525326941792011-11-28T12:38:55.389-08:002011-11-28T12:38:55.389-08:00Nice Raymond... name calling?!?! Imbecility???
M...Nice Raymond... name calling?!?! Imbecility??? <br /><br />Maybe i should have said that SL will only be filled with those who can afford it, and computer geeks with no life living off of mom and dad and nothing else to do with their money that buy all the latest computer hardware. Must be nice.<br /><br />Most of us merely want to eat and pay our rent and bills, and escape RL in SL.. without having to choose between them.<br />Ah but that's right.. we are imbeciles. Forgive my ignorance.Caoiltehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00108986463072166184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-14830923920113670542011-11-28T00:45:01.043-08:002011-11-28T00:45:01.043-08:00Karl I love you, thank you.Karl I love you, thank you.Junehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14276716314990054998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-40083401198038984712011-11-27T21:06:46.035-08:002011-11-27T21:06:46.035-08:00@June
The official release of Firestorm has a Flyc...@June<br />The official release of Firestorm has a Flycam indicator!!!!!! Thanks Dev team!Crim Miphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08403323928229440713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-25850898635755898052011-11-27T16:28:09.969-08:002011-11-27T16:28:09.969-08:00well hurry up will ya I am tired dealing with the ...well hurry up will ya I am tired dealing with the old version cause of the recent version crashing my video driverPatrick032986https://www.blogger.com/profile/13818508274632621374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-25903015750910885922011-11-27T11:00:30.432-08:002011-11-27T11:00:30.432-08:00Glenn, did you file a JIRA concerning this cache i...Glenn, did you file a JIRA concerning this cache issue and/or did you try to get in touch with the devs themselves? If not I suggest that you do so speedily so that the matter might possibly be addressed in the forthcoming Firestorm release. Maybe it’s already in the pipeline anyway (or has been resolved). But you should ask directly and very specifically to get a quick and satisfactory answer if you want to make sure whether you can keep on using Firestorm or not in the setting you describe. This blog might not provide you with a direct line to the people in charge.Raymond Martinekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578713262258721094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-76160851106453994342011-11-27T09:25:18.692-08:002011-11-27T09:25:18.692-08:00Thank you all so much! Firestorm is an amazing pro...Thank you all so much! Firestorm is an amazing product and I am continually humbled by your selflessness and generosity. I teach art at California State University, Long Beach where 220 students, 7 TA's and I have all been using Firestorm to build 68 virtual art galleries.<br />http://art110.wikispaces.com/vrag11f9<br /><br />Unfortunately, my lead TA has demanded, and I have to admit that she's right, that we switch to LL V3 next semester for ONE reason: Clear Cache.<br /><br />Something like 80% of the class have gotten the familiar hang on startup and come pleading for help. The Clear Cache instructions are not hard and it usually fixes it for most students. Still, it is an extra frustration that has fallen on well over half the class. Unlike people who come to SL by choice, my students are "forced" to go there to complete course assignments. So they're in a foreign place that they'd rather not bother with and then it "doesn't work."<br /><br />Firestorm has so many advantages that I'll try to still use it some in my personal work, but with nearly 500 students / academic year trying to "get through it," this one issue is unfortunately a world of trouble for us.Glenn Zucmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00609696397680490453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-85553099349518373992011-11-27T06:10:27.703-08:002011-11-27T06:10:27.703-08:00Only some people has those problems with opengl. W...Only some people has those problems with opengl. Why must others wait for a new Release?. I have no nvidia Card, i don't have the opengl issue, but i had to wait too. There is an Opengl fix FS release, but only beta testers get that. <br />When FS will release after Linden has resolved the opengl issue, than we will wait another 3 months or more.I'm no noob, i can decide myself, if i use a beta viewer or use it not. I use the Beta Mesh, so i'm already a beta tester since 3 months. Don't like the Release Policy like it happens now.Chillihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117727170532472495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-70715795517626320462011-11-27T05:24:19.604-08:002011-11-27T05:24:19.604-08:00Mick, you best ask inworld in the group »Phoenix/F...Mick, you best ask inworld in the group »Phoenix/Firestorm Viewer Support« (use group search to join) to get a quick solution for your issues.Raymond Martinekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578713262258721094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-61583448153210066822011-11-27T05:11:40.142-08:002011-11-27T05:11:40.142-08:00I would love to be able to upgrade to Firestorm, b...I would love to be able to upgrade to Firestorm, but I am struggling with the same issues as with the Linden Viewer 2. Both seem to be incapable of loading graphics onto my screen. Much of the scenery is in silhouette and seems reluctant to load. Have I to alter some setting? Reading these comment I see many seem happy to use the new Firestorm. I want to be able to join them, but Firestorm isn't making it easy.Mick Daubneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13596437101681937836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-10650543317025951222011-11-27T03:57:48.104-08:002011-11-27T03:57:48.104-08:00My english is wrong, sorry
Dear Aeon.
Working FS ...My english is wrong, sorry<br /><br />Dear Aeon.<br />Working FS in my computer, better GUI than phoenix, mesh etc, but I dont like. Why?<br />1.) slower, this is very big problem... I cant fly aeroplane with FS because too laggy...<br />2.) why mesh? I dont see too big different than sculpt... sometimes nothing, but sculpt loading 1-5 sec, mesh loading 30sec to 30 min!<br />Mesh no good feature just problem!<br />Mesh good for you, because easy build some object with outworld stuffs. Not good for me, and not good for sl users!<br /><br />I like Phoenix! Fast! and enjoyable SL :)<br />If the new phoenix slower than mesh, I migrating os grid... This is the GAME, and if not enjoyable, I find new game!<br /><br />Caoilte.<br />Perfect. The LL big fault:<br />Wrong idea the mesh! Why? Because many gamer, and landlord (ex landlord) housewife, and unemployed, and student, with low money, and SL live escape to RL... This is the past... Because LL say: buy expensive stuffs, or SL not enjoyable... Dream over, because the live in SL too expensive in RL! Many people and the big money (too many small linden = big money) out of SL... Game over...<br />Just see the map! How many land for sale? Just see the statistics, 2 years ago 140000 active gamer, now max 40000...<br />More system requirements, and thousands of people are going elsewhere, or to finish the game...<br />Wrong business politics...<br /><br />If the new phoenix slower with mesh, I migrating other grid, because I no enjoying SL... Reason is simple, just I dont understand, empty the head of LL marketing manager? He/she dont see the reality? (sorry this words too strong but unfortunetly true)<br />SL no hardcore rpg game, for hardcore gamers (there are too few, bigger money/people but too low money), sl game for everyone, game for student, housewifes, low money workers, unemployed with low money (smaller money/people but bigger money), etc...<br /><br />I waiting the phoenix with mesh, if now slower than actually phoenix realise...Peeter Tamerlanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16389238393168068269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-28246023434080393982011-11-27T03:41:42.827-08:002011-11-27T03:41:42.827-08:00My, my, above I should have said »…who are oscilla...My, my, above I should have said »…who are oscillating between impatience and impudence and imbecility…«<br /><br />Looking at mesh, one should just recall (and best keep in mind) how long it took until sculpties were fully established and the products incorporating them became really good in terms of craftmanship and realistic appearance and people started buying them by and by. Mesh is just at the very beginning. If creators all of a sudden find it a bad move to have created mesh-products, well… Relying on the early adopters is always a tricky thing, and one does it at one’s own risk -- there’s nobody else to blame. Anyway, at the stores I know mesh-products are very clearly marked as »V3 or Firestorm Mesh Beta only!«, so customers normally should be prevented from making bad buys.<br /><br />I don’t expect mesh to be really here before summer 2012, i. e. when people will be using mesh-products without giving it much thought.<br /><br />(Btw: If I were a volunteer Firestorm dev dedicating heaps of my spare time to this demanding project, I would certainly flip some people the bird. I really would. But fortunately I am not a Firestorm dev.)Raymond Martinekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578713262258721094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-45196464926900424392011-11-27T01:37:45.799-08:002011-11-27T01:37:45.799-08:00I agree 200% with the last post!
Mesh has caused s...I agree 200% with the last post!<br />Mesh has caused so much crap and is useless so far.<br />Scrap the mesh and stop fooling with viewers and just fix the things that are broken now so we can just carry on with what we already love about SL.<br />Mesh clothing looks horrible and does not fit without altering your avatar. That is reDICKulous and nobody is using it enough to cause so much upheaval.<br />Mesh is a failure!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03475716106415308569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-11112038389671710522011-11-27T01:10:17.419-08:002011-11-27T01:10:17.419-08:00Havent seen a mesh product that I care about yet, ...Havent seen a mesh product that I care about yet, nor have I seen anything that convinces me that upgrading my graphics card JUST to stay in SL is worth it. Unfortunately MOST people can't afford it either. <br /><br />Wanting the space shuttle after the program is cancelled?? Stupid metaphor... it's simple economics. If LL wants to push people out of SL they are doing a damned good job of it. Just force us to upgrade or leave. We will leave, when I have to choose between a 300 dollar graphics card or food, and rent.... SL loses.<br /><br />How about the fact that MOST people simply want a viewer that they don't have to spend 200 to 300 USD JUST to be able to run, like many in SL am on a fixed or low income. <br /><br />The vast majority of us don't give a rat's ass about mesh, we only wish to be able to enjoy the interaction with our friends in SL, and not have to keep spending money we don't have just to stay. Who cares about amazing graphics and every single pixel? IT'S ALREADY AMAZING... for most of us.<br /><br />I like my old car, it runs just fine... and I can't afford a new one with all the bells and whistles. Too bad, the mass migration of people to other grids has started, and when SL dies because only those with money to spare can afford it, maybe the next owners will have some business sense and stop driving their customers away.Caoiltehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00108986463072166184noreply@blogger.com