tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post8763906520391448458..comments2023-11-05T04:18:38.802-08:00Comments on Phoenix Firestorm Blog: We've been quiet again!? o.0Alexis Stapovichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05526255116743393398noreply@blogger.comBlogger107125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-30512733333705944882012-02-23T14:36:23.855-08:002012-02-23T14:36:23.855-08:00So i'm a fan of phoenix....yes i am one of tho...So i'm a fan of phoenix....yes i am one of those people who refuse to let go....but my problem isnt the fact i cant run firestorm cause i can, it is however slightly choppy which is irritating...thats the only reason i havent switched from phoenix completely....one thing about phoenix however that has me mind boggled is that fact multiple layers STILL havent been added...if i can run a client like cool viewer for example and run mesh multiple layers etc then this really shouldnt be a problem for phoenix either.. the only thing i dont like about cool viewer is the lack of functionality and the feeling of stepping back into the stone age, everything else is seamless though, so if henri can do it i believe so can phoenix developers....i get there trying to sate people via firestorm but if its gonna make people lag its gonna make people lag....just add the multiple layers already focus on that then everything else will fall into place....also alot of issues with alpha textures on phoenix...need to be addressed alsoVirtual.Barbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14568976499433949434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-13380298892587397402012-02-21T14:45:57.237-08:002012-02-21T14:45:57.237-08:00ok, I do not like firestorm, do not like the way i...ok, I do not like firestorm, do not like the way it operates, it is just like viewer 2. I very much prefer phoenix and hope it will keep going. phoenix is much easier to operate. why firestorm just update phoenix and keep it. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05413312372892024521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-86713903202351879642012-02-21T13:31:20.888-08:002012-02-21T13:31:20.888-08:00I'm worried Second Life is going to leave me (...I'm worried Second Life is going to leave me (and how many others?) behind. I've got a MacBook pro that's about 5 years old and all the new V3 type viewers just overheat the little thing and run slow as molasses! <br /><br />Sadlazycathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08391072231837230851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-86172522624675465132012-02-11T19:40:18.770-08:002012-02-11T19:40:18.770-08:00Hi, Are there any plans to incorporate the lsl pre...Hi, Are there any plans to incorporate the lsl pre-processor that is present in Phoenix, into Firestorm?<br /><br />The ability to have #include and #define so improves the clarity of the code.<br /><br />It is the only reason I haven't swapped to Firestorm.Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03909699718874816342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-65163056103054728812012-02-11T19:36:35.761-08:002012-02-11T19:36:35.761-08:00Hi, Are there any plans to incorporate the scripti...Hi, Are there any plans to incorporate the scripting pre-processor that phoenix has into firestorm? Thi ability to have #include files and #defines really tidies up the code.<br /><br />This would be so great ... then I could switch to firestorm :-)Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03909699718874816342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-79359691807317298862012-02-03T08:05:48.746-08:002012-02-03T08:05:48.746-08:00ZZ, you won’t get an answer to this on this here b...ZZ, you won’t get an answer to this on this here blog. It’s certainly a JIRA issue, so you best file one there.Raymond Martinekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578713262258721094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-67814055112884468362012-02-03T03:48:02.300-08:002012-02-03T03:48:02.300-08:00Not having anything to do but still now answer so;...Not having anything to do but still now answer so;<br /> <br />My only problem with Second Life now!<br />I can see any mesh i want, be on Sl or Open sim!<br />I can see it using any mesh viewer, be singularity, Cool viewer, Exodus, Rlv, Niran's, Catnip, the mesh viewers i have on my computer!<br />What i cant manage to have is:<br />Seeing ALL in world, as detailed as on a non mesh viewer!<br />Inbuild viewers max AA= 16<br />Inbuild viewers max Anisotropic filtering=4<br /><br /><br />Using Nvidia control (there is at least 1 blog explaining how any can make Sl much smoother, if you use the Vga settings instead of inbuild viewer one!)<br />I can override (disabling the inbuild AA and AF) and make the viewer shows ALL (not only meshes, but all you see in your screen) at AA=32 AF=32 or 16HQ<br /><br />That means one thing, if you have a high end LCD, you will notice the diff in detail and all will look less cripsy and much more detailed!<br /><br />Now when you try to do that with any mesh viewer, what will happen is that AA and AF are disabled, NO AA NO AF!<br /><br />The only way you can have, is to use the inbuild AA and AF, 16 and 4, when on a non mesh you can use 32/32 or 16hq!<br /><br />So its not about not seeing meshes, is about seeing Second Life as an amazing graphic experience (Just look at my flirk page to see how i see things, as i don't use photoshop when i take my photos!!!)<br />Is about being able to sustain 4h straight in front of my computer enjoying, or have to stop after 30min cause my eyes are being stressed to much i have to log out!<br />Is knowing I can use the best settings with a non mesh viewer and have to stick with settings that no other game or tool uses for more then 10 years!<br />And im sorry if you never tried to see the diff of using 32AA and 32AF or 16HqAF or if you cant notice any!<br />But i can and i notice! <br /><br />So if any can give a reasonable explanation ill be very appreciated!ZZ BOTTOMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08109784340055338008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-36082109812024708662012-02-02T11:40:55.791-08:002012-02-02T11:40:55.791-08:00I say stop working on Phoenix and concentrate on F...I say stop working on Phoenix and concentrate on Firestorm. I suggested the Imprudence/ Kokua team should stop working on Imprudence and just concentrate on Kokua.<br /><br />It'll halve your workload and you can spend more time making sure Firestorm works properly. <br /><br />I still think LL should have dropped the servers when they said they would.Evelynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15648783345565125923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-59109616189584621742012-02-02T10:51:46.238-08:002012-02-02T10:51:46.238-08:00As long as people can choose a viewer of their lik...As long as people can choose a viewer of their liking, well and good. Any »war of the viewers« is somewhat silly. It’s all a matter of personal tastes and individual system configurations to run the viewers on. Everything else doesn’t greatly matter.Raymond Martinekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578713262258721094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-84381640814253342312012-02-02T09:10:41.110-08:002012-02-02T09:10:41.110-08:00@Glory
I have absolutly no use for that piece of ...@Glory<br /><br /><i>I have absolutly no use for that piece of garbage V2-3 but am perfectly happy to let people chose what they like, since you keep dissing and want to abandon Phoneix the still superior viewer I have moved on to another TPV where the owner isn't so arrogant.</i><br /><br />I see no arrogance from the owner of the team. I do see annoyance because of people like you that refuse to even try a v3 based viewer and cling to v1 because you are more familiar with it, then heap scorn and abuse on the team because they aren't focused on phoenix (like they have been saying for months now). I a sure the phoenix team is shaking in their prim boots at you moving to another viewer, i mean you pay them *so* much money to use phoenix or give so much of your time to develop it whatever will they do without you?Serithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14862756020369606190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-78825213656813119452012-02-01T21:02:02.356-08:002012-02-01T21:02:02.356-08:00I have absolutly no use for that piece of garbage ...I have absolutly no use for that piece of garbage V2-3 but am perfectly happy to let people chose what they like, since you keep dissing and want to abandon Phoneix the still superior viewer I have moved on to another TPV where the owner isn't so arrogant.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452693209121088200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-74856021791540261762012-02-01T18:44:40.910-08:002012-02-01T18:44:40.910-08:00*Lol*
I have 32 years of professional experience ...*Lol*<br /><br />I have 32 years of professional experience in a variety of businesses including computers and other complex technical equipment and services and get paid for changing perspective all the time and seeing the world through the eyes of my clients. Generalization is always a risky approach and often produces imprecise results.Raymond Martinekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578713262258721094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-82205774926267167272012-02-01T16:47:56.568-08:002012-02-01T16:47:56.568-08:00I'm Still crashing when looking at Profiles an...I'm Still crashing when looking at Profiles and I still can't hear music. Phoenix doesn't let me.SVENUS5683https://www.blogger.com/profile/17189794967994707198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-26908878266257712792012-02-01T14:48:30.914-08:002012-02-01T14:48:30.914-08:00Nope - thanks for playing Ray. Welcome to Corporat...Nope - thanks for playing Ray. Welcome to Corporate America - and in particular, the Tech Sector.<br /><br />It's not an impression - it's a fact.<br /><br />Before opining concerning this, you might want to go digging through the years of backlogs ... Oh wait, you can't. Most of them were expunged!<br /><br />Sorry, experience in this field is what I am speaking from: You can doubt it all you want to. It won't change anything.<br /><br />I'm not here to argue with you either.<br /><br />My statements have nothing to do with "statistics" and everything to do with what can be directly observed.<br /><br />It might pay to try looking at things from a perspective other than your own for a change.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-46581389268799779732012-02-01T11:45:37.442-08:002012-02-01T11:45:37.442-08:00Atra, you are still referring to an impression you...Atra, you are still referring to an impression you may have attained over the years. And you are making a decisive constraint yourself: »…unless they have a set script to read from.« In other words: You are still pretty vague. Nothing to be learned here.Raymond Martinekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578713262258721094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-47465184345811425532012-02-01T11:28:00.096-08:002012-02-01T11:28:00.096-08:00Ray, what I have stated regarding the Lindens is p...Ray, what I have stated regarding the Lindens is pretty much a hard fact.<br /><br />Look at what they have done vs. what the users want, then look at the reactions from various Lindens both present and past.<br /><br />Finally, look at the way their policies have changed over the years and examine the way they are implemented.<br /><br />We'll use the Gambling Policy as an example: At the start (and even now) they had (and have) very broad definitions of what constitutes "Gambling". Each Linden acting on a report for this has had a different reaction, often times with the exact same report (see, sploders and their newer variations as well as Zyngo and other games which escaped this policy for a very long time).<br /><br />It is hardly "meaningless" to point out that no two Lindens will say the exact same thing or even agree on a point - unless they have a set script to read from.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-50471922100899465122012-02-01T11:05:44.950-08:002012-02-01T11:05:44.950-08:00Atra, your reply is pretty meaningless itself beca...Atra, your reply is pretty meaningless itself because what you are dishing out here is not hard facts but solely surmise and conjecture masked as truisms. What you refer to as your vast personal experience in Second Life will buy you the admiration of everybody around, no doubt, but it is irrelevant from a statistical point of view.Raymond Martinekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578713262258721094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-18052892517368081472012-01-31T20:31:38.048-08:002012-01-31T20:31:38.048-08:00I do so love to correct people Stacie ...
The Lin...I do so love to correct people Stacie ...<br /><br />The Lindens you may talk to and the Lindens the Phoenix/Firestorm team may talk to and the Lindens that run the show .. ?<br /><br />Not a one of them knows jack squat concerning what the others are doing/saying.<br /><br />Your entire "I told you so" attitude? It's utterly meaningless.<br /><br />When you've been a user of Second Life as long as I have, you learn these things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-26514337331138504392012-01-31T16:33:52.227-08:002012-01-31T16:33:52.227-08:00Dont wish to have told you so...but i told you so ...Dont wish to have told you so...but i told you so awhile back that Linden told us they were not killing v1...To the one that flamed me :P <br /><br />regarding this<br />"Phoenix...<br />Remember we promised we would keep Phoenix going as long as it's feasible and we will stand by that promise. And it's sounding lately like LL is starting to take a less aggressive stance towards V1 than what we were initially told nearly a year ago. By the sounds of it, LL has no immediate plans now to break v1 by turning off server side functionality. This of course is nothing more than the impression we are getting, there has been no official statement either way. Which means we want to get another Phoenix release out some time soon as well. When? good question.. no time frame yet but hopefully within the next few months. We're hoping we can address some of the performance, stability and mesh related issues our Phoenix users are experiencing on the 1600 release."<br /><br />To the person who more or less flamed me...Dont assume the rest of us dont know Lindens or talk with them...Stacie Meierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08612606782262021627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-71185854281530031142012-01-31T07:24:35.478-08:002012-01-31T07:24:35.478-08:00to much blahto much blahRuebanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17553856908613741011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-21853264429673875572012-01-28T13:46:12.053-08:002012-01-28T13:46:12.053-08:00i agree those viewers are horrible!! i will put up...i agree those viewers are horrible!! i will put up with phoenix/firestorm's problems and updates before i will use the other new viewersNicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06331514789130450775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-20719444799539252962012-01-28T13:45:49.300-08:002012-01-28T13:45:49.300-08:00In my opinion...if you hate the viewer and the tea...In my opinion...if you hate the viewer and the team...why are you hanging out in their messages threads? No one wants to hear your messages of hate and ignorance.<br /><br />I think the only CHILD in this thread was Archangel.<br /><br />If you found yourself a viewer that works better for you...and updates quicker than go to their message threads (if they have one) and spread your praise & love for it there.<br /><br />The way you go on and on and spread hate...I'd swear you were a relative of the Phelps family from Topeka, Kansas.<br /><br />I am not friends with anyone of the developers of this viewer, but I for one, 100% fully support the efforts of Jessica and the Firestorm team. I only use Firestorm and no other viewer now...even with the known issues. I am a patient enough person to know that they develop these fixes on their own unpaid time. My SL experience hasn't been drastically hindered by the fact that I can't wear a few mesh items I prematurely bought. They can sit in my inventory until kinks are worked out.<br /><br />Maybe if they didn't have to deal with so much flack from the haters...updates would be made to BOTH Phoenix and FS viewers in a more timely manner. <br /><br />So buh bye haters...if you really want your point taken...I would suggest YOU grow up and submit your suggestion like a decent human being. I'm sure Jessica presented the info as best she could with what she was given from LL. <br /><br />I know I'm tired of hearing the same thing over and over from her because people can't get it through their thick skulls. It's obvious FS is the direction being taken...I for one would like to be more informed about those changes than the flack her team has been getting.<br />So positive thoughts going out to the FS team. Looking forward to the upcoming updates and changes. Cheers!RC Colahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11026017468538562703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-16759603208867305112012-01-28T13:42:25.579-08:002012-01-28T13:42:25.579-08:00ok, so i LOVE LOVE LOVE firestorm but it pisses me...ok, so i LOVE LOVE LOVE firestorm but it pisses me off that my lag is SOOOOOOOOOO much worse on FS than on Ph. ALSO i dont like phoenix anymore after being used to FS ONLY BECAUSE (underline that please) i can not ADD layers like i can on FS (i.e. 4 or 5 tattoo layers at one time vs. only one tattoo layer at a time on phoenix!) another problem i have had with FS is that it blacks in and out when my lag becomes too high and now i have attempted FS on my laptop nad on my friends desktop.......it's the same thing on both the LAG is horrendous, also asking my friends about their FS exp they tell me they had some of the same issues! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE fix firestorm to be more stable and please with haste i miss my FS viewer....it would be that or make phoenix like FS where we can add layers and have some more of the firestorm capabilities!!Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06331514789130450775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-10377084842133251072012-01-28T10:28:48.044-08:002012-01-28T10:28:48.044-08:00Connie, you are of course very right here. For my ...Connie, you are of course very right here. For my part, I made the mistake of violating two golden internet-rules:<br /><br />1. »Don’t feed the trolls!«<br />2. »Don’t argue with conspiracy theorists!«<br /><br />Each type will already wear you down in the long run, let alone in combination...<br /><br />*Shrugs*Raymond Martinekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578713262258721094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2674320998292574551.post-70407034933299384452012-01-28T03:25:23.207-08:002012-01-28T03:25:23.207-08:00Raymond lets be honest, did you tried any of the n...Raymond lets be honest, did you tried any of the new viewers yet?<br /> did by any chance you dare to say that Niran's, Rlv, Catnip, Sion, Exodus, Dolphin are worst then Firestorm?<br /> Did that matters?<br /> What matters is that both Firestorm and phoenix get at least the latest available updates from Ll concerning bugs, and on my personal case, that Phoenix got also the latest Rlv updates and also Henry's ones!ZZ BOTTOMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08109784340055338008noreply@blogger.com